Thomas Wallis II is often confused with John Wren II.

Jackson's does not refer to Thomas Wallis II but shows a mark that looks very similar to Thomas Wallis's, attributing it to John Wren II with a question mark against it. Grimwade records John Wren II as a spoon-maker and his mark very clearly has a pellet between the I and the W and the I actually looks like an I. John Wren II was also earlier, his first mark was entered in 1777, and he was only known to be working until 1795.

I have never seen any sugar tongs made by John Wren II.

All of these marks I have attributed to Thomas Wallis II.

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1778 - 1780 (this mark is from a pair of cast tongs, dated c1780).

1780 - 1784  (this mark is from bright cut tongs marked with the Lion Passant & maker's marks only, dated c1784).

1785 - 1786 (these marks are from tongs with the incuse duty mark).

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